The Conversation After The Divine Liturgy

The Divine Liturgy Of St. John Chrysostom Is also The Holy Sacrifice Of The Mass, as we of The Roman/Latin Rite understand it. This runs very close to The Mass of St. Pius V. Both share a Root Liturgy, namely the Divine Liturgy Of St James The Apostle In Jerusalem. The Antiochian Rite Maronite Catholic Church offers this Liturgy.
And in the case of Heavy Duty Catholic Liturgy, whether it be Byzantine Rite or Traditional Roman Rite, Intelligent Discussion Ensues. Such is the case after the Divine Liturgy of The 14th Sunday After Pentecost on the Julian Calendar. This Heavy Duty Catholic Discussion is practically nonexistent after a Roman Rite NO Mass, also called the Ordinary Form or Novus Ordo, with the Initials NO for short, unless at a Morning Mass at Our Lady Queen Of Martyrs RC Church in Forest Hills, Queens, where My Most Dear Friend discusses Papal Matters or how poorly done the NO MASS is offered & How The NO MASS came to be, which is often Lively.
So, in the Spirit of Those Conversations of Many a Morning, I had a conversation with a Woman who I have spoken with before. She had spoken to me about the removal by The Vatican in regards to the FILIOQUE from the Nicene Creed(The Double Procession of The Holy Ghost from The Father & The Son, which is a Bone of Contention With the Eastern Orthodox Churches). She had spoken of WHY is The Vatican always making concessions with the Eastern Orthodox Churches, as the Eastern Orthodox Churches do not believe in The Immaculate Conception, nor the Primacy of The Papacy, but do control the System of Divorce. To me she had said “If You Dialogue With The Devil and Make Concessions to Satan, Satan will want more.” This Woman is apparently, No Ecumenist.
She also told me to pray for The Fatima Priest, Fr Nicholas Nightingale Gruner, who had died.

This leads into the Conversation on Our Lady Of Fatima, as I was told that Our Lady will appear for a 7th Time, with the case of the 100th Anniversary of The Miracle of The Sun in The Cova in Fatima, Portugal. There will be Peace if Russia is Consecrated to Mary’s Immaculate Heart, by The Pope In Union With all The Catholic Bishops throughout the World.
This Woman also spoke of Sancte Communion A Mano(In The Hand), a practice only known at the Novus Ordo Mass in The Roman Rite Catholic Church, for she said that Holy Communion should only be handled by Priests & Not Laity as the Priest’s Hands are Consecrated. She also said that WHEN Russia is Consecrated to Mary’s Immaculate Heart, practices such as Holy Communion In The Hand as well as the Novus Ordo Mass, will disappear.
As I do talk to Byzantine Rite Catholics, I find that they are TRULY The Church Militant. Ditto, the Same goes for Roman Rite Latin Mass Catholics.

Deo Gratias!

M

“Veritas Voriscum”

I did subscribe, at least for one month to  the Site called ChurchMilitant.com, which originates from the “Warehouse In Detroit”, a Sarcastic way of saying that ChurchMilitant.com, comes from studios in the RC Archdiocese of Detroit from a Homosexually Inclined Suburb called Ferndale, where the Face of The Operation of Church Militant.com, the Mop Haired Mr Voris, rules the roost. It may as well be originating from a Former Warehouse in the Quasi Artistic Williamsburg Section of Brooklyn, NY.

His Report from St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City, was a most worthy ” Suck Up” Job. It was as if, in the Musings of Canada’s Resident Curmudgeon on “CBC News The National”, Robert Rex Raphael Murphy, better known as Rex Murphy, had referred to “Starbucks Coffee” as “Suck Up Coffee”, well Mr Gary Michael Voris(Gary From Westchester, You” re Next on SportsRadio 66 & 101.9 FM, WFAN), sounded like a “Suck Up” on the NY Yankees Television Network, called YES(Yankees Entertainment Sucks), mostly owned by FOX, by the way(Da, Da, Dot, Da, Da, Dahhh).

“Bad Advisors”, O Great Garoo from Croton On Hudson? Do consider the days of the Rule of Buenos Aires, Argentina, when the Seminary was almost Bare and an Order of Traditional Nuns were kicked into the street including a couple of Young Postulants, in regards to “Humbleganda” Cardinal Bergoglio.
His Eminence finding ways of keeping “Summorum Pontificum” out of Buenos Aires, with a Hybrid Tridentine and Novus Ordo Mass, which folded in a few months? Oh, Wait! He never offered the Tridentine Latin Mass, as his 1st Mass was a Novus Ordo Mass.
Then, as Pope, the Ordered By Him utter destruction of the Quasi Traditional Franciscan Friars Of The Immaculate, an order with a Waiting List to join, your UTTER SILENCE amazes me in the SENSE OF JUSTICE.

You, Gary Michael Voris, are a PAPOLATRIST. If The Current Occupant of The Chair of Saint Peter was to OUTLAW the Tridentine Latin Mass, you would blame Fr Thomas Rosica The Canadian(Born in Rochester, NY, USA in 1959) for a BAD TRANSLATION of such Declaration. You would immediately find a way to pin this action on one Timothy Michael Cardinal Dolan, who, no doubt, feels the pain of the previous “New Ones” you have ripped him without Anesthetics.
No doubt, you blame all of this on Michael J. Matt, Christopher A. Ferrara(Who Like You Was born in an Archdiocese Ruled by Francis Joseph Cardinal Spellman, which is the RC Archdiocese of New York, which in your case is Westchester County), John Vennari, The Late Fr. Nicholas Nightingale Gruner, and Louis Verrecchio. They are NOT PAPOLATRISTS like Yourself.

Is Marc and his network of “O. D’s” still making you their “Marionette” when the Message needs to be Webcast to The World? Thursday’s “Dog & Pony” Performance was nauseating to the Umpteenth Degree.It’s like passing wind after someone had consumed the beverage called Cerveza and eaten juevos in more than moderate amounts, while on a packed IND Queens Blvd Subway Train speeding into Manhattan. For those of you who don’t read Spanish, Cerveza is Beer, while Juevos are Eggs.

You once stated that you worked for FOX News. That report of yours was anything but “Fair & Balanced”.

And Papolatry violates The 1st Commandment.

Kyrie Elaison

M

M X W57 For This & Next Weekend – I Confess

I like riding above ground on an Elevated Line in Brooklyn on Broadway. The M Train, whose Trunk Line is the IND 6th Avenue Subway Line is operating into Midtown Manhattan. I get to see assorted “Hipsters” in both Bushwick and Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
Middle Class Soccer Children, coming from Metropolitan Oval in Maspeth, rode back to Manhattan on the M 6th Avenue Weekend Train, with their Fathers. Hipsters got on at Myrtle Wyckoff, Knickerbocker & Central Avenues and all along Broadway in Brooklyn.
Headed over the Williamsburg Bridge(The Hipster Highway), with the M heading underground at Essex Delancey Street Station. Noticed all the people playing with their Smart phones, even underground. I went as far as W34th Street. I had to attend to private business in a Transcendent Atmosphere.
So on W32nd Street between 6th & 7th Avenues. I went down the steps of the Place of Transcendence. The Lower Level was quiet. I then went into a small room & locked the door.

I went to the Sacrament of Penance for this location was St. Francis of Assisi R C Church in Midtown Manhattan. This was the place of Transcendent Quality which was implied above. I confessed my sins & prayed for several people, living & dead.
It was my parents (Ma, D.1994, Dad, D. 2000), who liked going to the Franciscans for the Sacrament of Penance. I drove them there even though I utterly despised driving in Midtown, a place which can unnerve people over several years. They Also introduced me to Our Lady Queen of Martyrs in Forest Hills, several years ago.

I decided to head home via Q32, Q53, Q60, Q23 & Q54 Buses. I didn’t want to stay underground. In fact I used the Q54 Bus to Metropolitan Avenue M Terminal to catch the M Train to Manhattan.

And to The Lord God In The Trinity, for all those people mentioned and unmentioned:

Deo Gratias!

M

False Ecumenism-“Dialogue With The Devil”

After The Magnificent Easter Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom at St. George Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church on E. 7Th Street in Manhattan’s East Village, I soon found out what I have hypothesized about Byzantine Rite Catholics:
Byzantine Rite Catholics know their Catholic Faith better than the Novus Ordo Roman Rite Catholics do.

I had a chance to speak with a Married Couple, the Same Couple I spoke with last year at St. George Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. Talk about The Church Militant! In regards to all this “False Ecumenism”, reportedly The Holy See, in order to accommodate what the Woman called the “Schismatic Orthodox”, the “Filioque” of the Nicene Creed, where the Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father & The Son, was removed from the new editions of the Prayer Books, to accommodate the “Schismatic & Heretic Orthodox.” In fact, one of The Periti of the Second Vatican Council, who became Pope, Benedict XVI(Josef Ratzinger), gave the order to do so.

What this devout Catholic Woman from an Eastern Church in union with the Holy See, said is “If you dialogue with The Devil and you give in to him, he will want more because he knows your weakness.”

This Ukrainian Greek Catholic does not trust all this Phony Ecumenism, as one can see how it has worked. Modernism, which is the Synthesis of all Heresies, can be seen in the creation of a Protestantized New R C Liturgy, commonly called The Novus Ordo Mass, which has caused a huge drop in attendance in The Roman/Latin Rite, often forcing the Closure of Churches, as well as a tremendous drop in Belief of The Real Presence of Christ in The Eucharist, with the coming of Holy Communion.
She isn’t trusting of Pope Francis I, what with kissing up to the Russian Orthodox Church at the Expense of the Eastern Catholic Churches. She said to me that at The Time when Pope Saint John Paul II consecrated the World To The Immaculate Heart of Mary, this didn’t follow what The Blessed Virgin Mary had desired, namely The Consecration Of Russia To Her Immaculate Heart.

The Woman also said that Father Nicholas Gruner spoke the Truth on calling for The Pope to Consecrate Russia to Mary’s Immaculate Heart. She says to pray for the Repose of The Soul of Father Gruner.

Modernists In The Church, whether as Material or Manifest Heretics, are known for persecuting Traditionalists. We have
Seen the outright persecution of the Franciscan Friars of The Immaculate, just for offering the Tridentine Latin Mass of the 1962 Missal, because of complaints of Modernist Dissidents, on the Orders of Pope Francis I.
In the latter part of the 19th Century up into Vatican II, 1st led by Archbishop John Ireland who ran the R C Archdiocese Of Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN & James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, MD, during the Late 19th & Early 20th Century, among other Catholic Bishops of Irish Descent, the treatment of the Byzantine Ruthenian Catholic Church as if these people weren’t truly Catholic, by Gibbons & Ireland’s practice of The Americanist Heresy, as well as a group of US Catholic Bishops in 1963, asking Pope Paul VI to close all Eastern Catholic Churches in order to have all Eastern Catholics assimilated into the Roman/Latin Rite Churches. I gather that these USA Latin Rite Bishops feared that their flock might defect to Eastern Churches, on the heels of the Novus Ordo Missae.

Trust me on this one, that the Great Conversations on Modernism, are to be found at the Tridentine Latin Mass or after Divine Liturgies of The Catholic Eastern Churches.
Novus Ordo Catholics can’t stomach any of this. The Majority are way too set in their Silly Ways.

Kyrie Elaison

M

Gary Voris & Fr Paul Confused By X & V

Am I saying that Gary M. Voris & Fr Paul Nicholson, from The R C Diocese of London, ON, Canada, are illiterate?

No, but their Mathematical Skills are a bit off. And they call themselves Traditionalist Catholics? What?

Fr Paul Nicholson is the Mission Preacher of the R C Diocese Of London, ON, Canada. Father is Spiritual Advisor To Gary Michael Voris. Father is based in Windsor, ON, just across the Detroit River from The City of & R C Archdiocese of Detroit, MI, USA, a Metropolitan Area which watches The Olympics on CBC Television rather than on NBC Sports(Mansbridge over Costas, Anyday, Eh).

The Letter X stands for the Roman Numeral meaning #10. The Letter V stands for the Roman Numeral meaning #5. Now what am I getting at?

In the case of X, both Gary M. Voris & Fr Paul Nicholson are running off at the mouth about X because it is in regards to their Extreme Dislike of SSPX, Or the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X. This duo, in the quest for Viewing #s on You Tube, report without accuracy that The SSPX are excommunicated.
Gary M likes to say that the SSPX are “Soft Sedevacantists.” From what I can see, I have never heard the term. He has actively accused Michael Matt(The Remnant Newspaper & Remnant TV), Christopher A. Ferrara(Same as Michael Matt & John Vennari’s Catholic Family News) & John Vennari of all being “Hard Sedevacantists.” Gary M accuses this group of trying to steer People away from One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church, just for being critical of certain Papal Decisions.
Gary M also stated that he spoke to 5 Cardinals in Rome who told him that the SSPX are excommunicated. Gary M refuses to name the 5 Cardinals.

“You Want Sedevacantists, Gary? I’ll Give You Sedevacantists. Their Order Ends With V”:
The Society of St. Pius V is a Sedevacantist Order of Priests, who like the Society of St. Pius X, offer the Holy Sacrifice of The Mass, who broke away from Archbishop Marcel LEFEBVRE, a number of years ago. The reason for this was that this group would not accept the validity of the 1962 Roman Missal, because of alleged Modernist Tendencies in that Missal. Sedevacantists believe that the Last Legitimate Pope, Venerable Pius XII, was the Last Pope and that his successors are all Antipopes.

I will say this to Gary M, that Michael Matt, Chris Ferrara and John Vennari are not Sedevacantists. They do hard hitting things including Asking questions which need to be asked. Meanwhile, all you do these days is complain about Timothy Cardinal Dolan cutting the cheese on a Subway Platform, as well as ripping a good many Bishops “A New One”, forgetting totally about the Pope, whose Agenda that the Bishops are following. You have little consistency. You act as if you are Pope in your mind.

In regards to Father Paul Nicholson, Mission Preacher, within the two hours of hearing about the Death of “The Fatima Priest”, Father Nicholas Gruener, himself born in Montreal, PQ, Canada, Father Nicholson, as if he was Gary M, went totally Ballistic, savaging Fr Gruener’s Name, in the way that Mr Voris savages the American Prince of The Church, Timothy Cardinal Dolan. It was As Charitable as force feeding a constipated human with Immodium.

Fr Nicholson, you belong on “JERRY SPRINGER”, just for your lack of Charitable Temperament.

Kyrie Elaison!

M

My Most Dear Friend & My Return To Rosarian Tradition

Last evening I had planned to go to The Mass of The Lord’s Supper at Our Lady Queen Of Martyrs in Forest Hills, Queens, but I had been researching the Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgies in regards to the Ordinary Form of The Mass.
A little bit later, I began researching Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, Architect of the Novus Ordo Mass, currently called The Ordinary Form of Mass. I had read about His planned “Reform” of The Rosary. In the words of Christopher Ferrara, it was a case of “The New Mass meets The New Rosary.”
I prayed Rosary much in Childhood. But from the Time of the Beginnings of The New Mass, not very often. At Times I thought of it as a Woman’s Prayer. Now I know WHY I often felt “Dry” over the Years.
When I 1st went over to the Byzantine Rite, beautiful Prayers for Holy Mary Theotokos, which means Bearer of The Christ, are part of The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.
But, with Archbishop Bugnini’s planned “Rosary Reform”, which would have only included the Line”Hail Full of Grace, The Lord is with Thee, Blessed is The Fruit of Thy Womb”, and one Our Father, I was both incensed and THIS moved me to pray 5 Decades of The Joyful Mysteries Last Night. The Joyful Mysteries are Monday & Thursday, The Sorrowful Mysteries are Tuesdays & Fridays & The Glorious Mysteries on Wednesdays & Both Saturday and Sunday.
Now this morning, I was debating as to whether or not to go to the Annual Good Friday Walk between St. Thomas Apostle in Woodhaven & Holy Child Jesus here in Richmond Hill. The Weather is a bit rainy, the threat of Thunderstorms are upon us & the Walk is a chance that one will hear Folk Style Music all morning does not really appeal to me. Much of The Modern Liturgical Music is Utterly Void of being able to be sung and may sound better as Song Parodies, especially at THIS “Woodstock Style Walk.” The only things missing are The Mosh Areas.
So I prayed the 5 Sorrowful Mysteries, meditating on The Passion of Christ, who bore all of Mankind’s Sins. I had Tears in parts of these Mysteries being prayed.
Praying for Catholic and Orthodox Christians who are being massacred by People who profess a False Religion where Violence is a Known Solution, and where Marriage of Children is a Common Practice, whose founder once married a 9 Year Old Girl, makes me wonder about all the False Ecumenism the Vatican II Leadership in The Church are emphasising. Only When The Heretics & Schismatics come to The One True Church, will there be Unity. Our Catholic Brethren are taking a bad beating in The Middle East. Our Catholic Brethren, both Byzantine and Roman Latin, are under threat in Ukraine from Schismatic, Orthodox Russia.
False Ecumenism doesn’t cut it. And it is Time for The Pope, with all The Catholic Bishops, to Consecrate Russia to The Immaculate Heart of Mary, NOT having Prayer Services and Coffee Klatches with Apostates, Heretics & Schismatics. All these People need The Graces of Mary & The Sacraments of The Bride Of Christ, The One True Church, One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church, for Outside of Her, There is No Salvation.
My Most Dear Friend once came to me in all my Bursitis Pain with the words “Jesus Loves You, Jesus Wants Us To Be Friends.”
She had suffered from Lymphoma and sought Heavenly Help. She tried The Rosary about 8 Years Ago. Prior to her coming into The Church from the Greek Orthodox Church in 2012, she prayed the Rosary. This worked a Cure. She came into The Church. She is maturing in her Catholic Faith.
I am hooked.
Deo Gratias!
Santa Maria, Madre De Dios, Ruega Por Nosotros Peccadores, Ahora Y En La Hora, De Nuestra Muerte, Amen.y

M

“What about interfaith Christmas Chorales?”

What about interfaith Christmas Chorales?: http://youtu.be/zI-lS3Zm4I4

Last year in Forest Hills, Queens, NY, a Dear Friend was Scandalized by the Appearance of Protestant Ministers, 3 of them Women, reading scripture from the Catholic Pulpit, unto the point of asking “WHY are Heretics preaching here”, which upsets her deeply. She is a Convert from Greek Orthodoxy to the Catholic Faith. It was her 1st “Ecumenical Thanksgiving.”

Then again, the Protestants do not recognize The Sacred, Sacrificial Priesthood.

Luther RATIONALIZED This.

Sad! Fr Gruener and John Vennari warn about this.

Kyrie Elaison!

M, Eh!

But, Fr Gruner Does Say Something

Do view him on The Fatima Center Channel with John Vennari.

M

Do NOT Attend The Masses of Fr Gruner

Fr Nicholas Gruner, Leader of The Fatima Center, was suspended “A Divinis” by The Holy See, meaning that he cannot offer The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass, nor hear Confessions, as of 1996, for Failure to Return to the Italian Diocese where he is Incardinated, for preaching various strange teachings in regards to The Apparitions at Fatima, Portugal.

So, whenever The Catholic Faithful are, do not go to Mass being offered by Fr Gruner. He cannot offer The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass. You cannot fulfill your Sunday Obligation with Fr Gruner, offering what he has no authority to offer.

Kyrie Elaison

M

Nicholas Gruner – Wikipedia,

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Gruner